High School in France

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  • Overview

    Bienvenue en France!

    Studying abroad with Greenheart Travel’s high school program in France will give you a chance to live and study in one of the world’s most creatively charged countries. Immerse yourself in a culture that inspired Monet to paint, Bridgette Bardot to act and Edith Piaf to sing, and learn to speak French like a local during your semester or academic year abroad. As an exchange student in France, you will soak in the French way of life through full language and cultural immersion, allowing you to gain a new perspective during your academic adventure abroad.

    Program at a Glance:

    • Host family accommodation provides a full language & culture immersion experience
    • Must have 2 years of French language experience
    • You can choose between 1 or 2-months, trimester, semester or academic year length programs
    • 4-day arrival orientation in Paris!
    • Start dates available in spring or fall

    Get a glimpse into what is life in France living with a host family:

  • Costs and Inclusions

    • 1 Month: $8,130
    • 2 Month: $9,010
    • Academic Trimester: $9,830
    • Academic Semester: $12,710
    • Academic Year: $14,650

    Packaged into the Price:

    • Roundtrip international airfare from New York City (JFK) to Paris
    • Airport pickup upon arrival
    • Host family accommodation and 3 meals per day
    • Comprehensive medical/accident insurance
    • 4 Day Arrival Orientation in Paris
      • Trips to the Eiffel Tower, Champs-Elysees, Arc de Triomphe, Versailles, The Louvre, and more.
    • Local arrival orientation with area representative in your host family’s town
    • Certificate of Completion upon successful completion of the program for use on college applications.
    • Access to Greenheart Travel Facebook groups to connect with alumni and others on your start date ahead of your program.
    • Greenheart Atlas Program 
    • Greenheart Travel T-shirt & Reusable “No Plastic Please” Canvas Tote Bag

    Our Support and Services: 

    • Visa Assistance in applying for the visa ahead of arrival, including visa paperwork and extensive directions and support.
    • Extensive pre-departure advice and support from Allison and Jess, your US-based program coordinators! They will be with you from your first inquiry, all the way through preparing to leave and your arrival in France.
    • Support and counseling services from in-country staff upon arrival to France.
    • Online pre-departure cultural and logistical orientation before you leave
    • 24-hour in-country and emergency support for the duration of the program, including 24-hour emergency phone numbers to reach a program manager at any time.
    • Opportunity to apply for a Greenheart Grant to give back to your community at home or abroad

    Payment Details

    • $1,000 Application Deposit due by the program deadline to formally apply
    • $5,000 Commitment Deposit due after acceptance
    • Remaining balance is due on June 1st for fall departures and November 1st for spring departures.

    Please note there is a non-negotiable $450 late application fee for any applications received after the stated application deadline.

    Worried about the program fee?

    Our goal is to help make travel accessible to everyone and we are here to help when you are deciding if this experience is financially do-able. Each year we offer scholarships for high school study abroad students! We also have a guide to fundraising your program fee, and many high school students fundraise in their hometown ahead of their program.

    We also offer discounts for applying early (plus there are many other benefits to applying early!) for each start date and for US families that have hosted an exchange student with Greenheart Exchange.

    Please inquire with us here if you have questions about the program fee, scholarships, or fundraising for your program.

  • Academic Info

    What to know about attending a French high school:

    • There are 3 trimesters (3 month grading periods) per school year, starting in September.
    • Most French state schools are now operating on a four day week with Wednesday remaining free and school on Saturdays, but it depends on the lycée.
    • Students can go to school on Wednesday and/or Saturday depending on the policies of the particular school.
    • A school day in France generally begins at 8:00 am, at noon there is a 1 1⁄2 to 2-hour lunch break, and the day ends at 5:00 or 6:00 pm. (The actual start and finish times will vary according to each local school.)

    There are three grade levels in the French high school or lycée:

    • Classe de Seconde (10th grade, 15-16 y. old) 

      Students choose courses from the following curriculum: French, History/Geography, Foreign Language, Math**, Physics/Chemistry, Earth Science, Physical Education, Social Studies, Latin, Greek, Art, Economics, Computer Science, Biology
    • Classe de Première (11th grade, 16-17 y. old)
      In this level, students must specialize in one of the following general sections, or “tracks”: Humanities, Social Studies/Economics, or Sciences. Other required subjects such as math, history, and geography, and languages may also be required within each track.
    • Classe de Terminale (12th grade, 17-18 y. old)
      In this level, students are focused on taking the rigorous French college entrance exam, the baccalaureate. Therefore, they spend a lot of time studying their subjects of specialization (Literature, Economics or Sciences). Courses are focused on the material that will be tested on the baccalaureat. A student who has passed the baccalaureate exam is generally considered to have the equivalent education of an American university sophomore.

    Before You Go Abroad

    You should meet with your US high school before you leave and share the general curriculum guidelines of your host country with your guidance counselor and/or teachers. Please consult with them about the credits they will potentially grant you for the classes you take while abroad.

    Because the curriculum will vary by country, it is important that you arrange the required classes required for your graduation, such as U.S. History, before or after your time abroad. There are no guarantees that you can take certain classes at your host school.

    Greenheart Travel will be able to provide information about the general curriculum for your age level in your host country; however, in most cases you will not be able to sign up for specific courses until AFTER you have arrived in your host country.

    Access your High School Curriculum Guidelines for France here!

    Once You’re Abroad

    Upon arrival in France, you will attend our Language & Culture Week in Paris. You will take French classes, visit cultural sites and discover a bit more of the French culture. It’s a lot of fun and a great way to ease yourself into your time in France

    Please keep in mind that the grading system in other countries is different than the US. Most host schools will not grant grades or transcripts as it is too difficult to evaluate your work due to the language barrier. If your host school is able to award you grades, they won’t be an exact match to what you would get in the US.

  • Program Dates

    Spring 2020 Dates

    Spring 2020 applications are now closed. Please apply for a Fall 2020 start date. 

    • Short Term (1-2 months): Wednesday, January 8, 2020
    • Trimester: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 –  Saturday, April 4, 2020
    • Semester: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 – Saturday, June 27, 2020

    Please note: these dates are subject to change.

    Fall 2020 Dates

    Apply Early and Save! $300 off Trimester and $500 off Semester/Year Early Application Discount for Fall 2020 Programs: Apply by December 6, 2019

    Final Deadline to Apply: March 15th, 2020

    • Short Term Option (1-2 months): Wednesday, August 26, 2020
    • Trimester: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 – Saturday, November 21, 2020
    • Semester: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 – Saturday, January 16, 2021
    • Academic Year: Wednesday, August 26, 2020 – Saturday, June 26 2021

    Please note: these dates are subject to change.

    Can’t commit to going during the school year? Check out our 2-4 week summer option in France here.

  • Eligibility

    In researching a study abroad program, you have already shown you are a leader and open-minded in your academic pursuits. These are just a few of the traits that our exchange students possess. You’re motivated to immerse yourself in another culture and flexible enough to live outside your comfort zone. You should also:

    • Be between 14 and 18 years of age (at the time of travel)
    • Be from the United States or Canada
    • Possess a high school cumulative GPA of at least 2.75/4.0
    • Be in great mental* and physical health
    • Have a genuine interest in becoming a part of your host family and community
    • Have at least 2 years of French language instruction

    Interested in gaining French fluency before you go? Check out our Teen Summer Language Camp in Paris!

    *What does it mean to be in good mental health?

    Moving to a new culture and staying in unfamiliar surroundings without your normal support structure can be very stressful, even to a well-adjusted student. Sending a student with pre-existing conditions on a long-term exchange program could exacerbate whatever challenges the student was previously facing. In order to ensure the safety of our participants, we must be rigorous in our pre-screening of all high school abroad applicants.

    Therefore, we may not be able to accept students who have struggled with any kind of mental illness within the last 2 years and/or are reliant on medication to address their existing mental health condition. Each student will be addressed on a case by case basis.

    These include, but are not limited to:

    • Depression
    • Obsessive-compulsive disorder
    • Debilitating anxiety
    • Eating disorders

    If the student’s mental health issue has been managed (post-medication) for over 2 years, we will ask for a note from his/her relevant practitioner (psychologist, therapist, psychiatrist, etc) as part of the application process.

  • Orientation

    All participants will get to participate in a 4-day orientation upon arrival, in Paris. You’ll have the opportunity to meet many other new like-minded and adventurous students who have also just arrived! By the end, you’ll have new friends scattered around the entire country. Orientation includes important activities and classes on what to expect on your program, language, and local culture. The accommodation will be at a hostel in downtown Paris, in the 14th arrondissement.

    Example Itinerary:

    Subject to change.

    Wednesday – Welcome to Paris! 

    On Wednesday you will arrive at Charles DuGalle Airport and the High School France team will greet you there! Then the staff will bring you to the hostel you’ll be staying at in Paris, which is located in the 14th arr. Up first – a walk down the famous Champs-Elysees! We’ll have lunch at a French restaurant where you can try your first taste of the famous Parisian food! After lunch, we’ll climb the Arc de Triomphe, and you’ll get your first glimpse of the Eiffel Tower. Dinner will be at the hostel for an early night, most of you might be a little jet lagged.

    Greenheart Traveler, Ian Taraszewski, with a friend in front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris, France.

    Thursday – Versailles and Dinner Cruise!

    After breakfast, we’ll head outside of Paris to the very famous Versailles Palace! We’ll have a picnic lunch in the gardens there, as long as it’s not raining.

    That night everyone will enjoy a dinner cruise on the Seine river with views of the cityscapes of Paris and twinkling lights of the Eiffel Tower.

    Friday – Louvre, Montmartre, and Eiffel Tower

    Friday morning we’ll head to the Louvre Museum, which is arguably the most famous museum in the world. We’ll enjoy a packed lunch. In the afternoon, we will take the elevator to the second floor of the Eiffel Tower to enjoy the view over Paris! Afterwards, we’ll have some free time in the Montmartre district, which is well known for the Sacre Coeur Church, La Maison Rose, and the artists square full of portrait painters.

    We’ll have dinner at a restaurant in Paris before heading back to the hostel for the night.

    Saturday – French Class, Culture Workshop, and Finally – Placements!

    In the morning, we’ll start our day with orientation classes! We’ll cover things like expectations, French culture, school life, host family etiquette, and more!

    After lunch, we’ll head to the train station where you’ll board your transportation to your new host city. Your host family will be waiting for you when you get there to meet you and welcome you! This is such a great part of the week as now the adventure really starts and all of the students will go to their new French home with their new French family!

  • Host Families

    The best way to learn about a new culture and language is to be fully immersed in it which is why all Greenheart Travel high school abroad students live with local host families. All of our host families are volunteers and will treat you as a member of their family. By being a part of your family’s daily life, you will learn to live and speak like a local.

    Prospective host families undergo a rigorous screening process. Participants can rest assured that only suitable host families will be selected. In fact, many of our current host families have hosted students in the past, showing what an impactful experience it was.

    In order to qualify as a host family, the prospective hosts must:

    • Successfully pass a criminal background check
    • Undergo and pass an in-person interview with program staff
    • Agree to and pass a home inspection

    We will connect you with your host family prior to your arrival in your host country. By e-mailing and speaking with them before arriving, it will help break the ice when you finally meet in person. It will also show that you are as excited to live with them as they are to host you!

    ost families have many reasons why they want to welcome you! Our host families are volunteers, meaning they don’t receive compensation for housing and feeding students during their program. Many host families love the experience of cultural exchange – they learn just as much about your country as you do theirs. Many are also former exchange students and want to return the favor, or they have children who have gone or will go to study in the U.S. Having an exchange student exposes their children to new languages and cultures.

    Ian and his host family in France enjoying a meal and wine together.

    Greenheart Traveler, Ian, and his host family in France.

  • Activities & Excursions

    Each semester there are optional weekend trips that students are allowed to sign up for if they are interested. These are an additional fee (usually between 300-500 euro for the weekend) and include transportation and lodging in the fee.

    Example Weekend Excursions

    Disneyland Paris

    This trip is a 2-day/2-night trip to Disney in order to enjoy the two Disneyland and Walt Disney Studios theme parks with other exchange students!

    Noam and her new friends posing in front of the castle at Disneyland Paris.

    Weekend Trip to Carnival in Lille

    Do you feel like discovering the North of France? This a 4-day/3-night trip to Lille and Dunkirk – you will stay in the lovely city of Lille. You will also discover the Old Town of Lille and its great monuments. You get to take part in the great carnival parade of Dunkirk, with a costume you will prepare during a workshop!

    Weekend Trip to Arles, Provence

    Do you feel like discovering the South of France? This is a 4-day/3-night trip to Provence – you will stay at the lovely city of Arles, famous for its Roman amphitheater and Gallo-Roman remains. You will also stroll around Arles and discover the city and its market, one of the largest markets in Provence. You will visit a Manade (a typical group of Camargue cattle and horses led by a herder) before enjoying the beach of the scenic village of Saintes Maries de la Mer!

    The Arles Collisseum

  • FAQs

    I am a parent with questions, where do I go?

    Please head to our Parent Handbook page. You’re also welcome to set up a time to chat with us about your child’s program abroad here. We’re happy to chat with you about this big decision!


    I identify as LGBTQ+. How will I be supported?

    Greenheart Travel welcomes travelers identifying as LGTBQ+, and is committed to helping you find the best program for you. We can provide information on the cultural norms of our destination countries and are prepared to advise you on the best programs based on your needs and interests. 

    Please read more here.

    When should I apply?

    We recommend you apply a minimum of 6 months prior to your desired semester.

    The sooner you can apply the better, as acceptance, gathering documents, etc. can take a long time. Read more about why applying early is a good idea.

    Our final deadlines for fall start dates are March 15, and September 15 for spring departures.

    I missed the deadline to apply! Is there any way I can go?

    It’s highly recommended you apply as early as possible. We set the deadlines for a reason and it can be very difficult to facilitate an exchange program at the last minute.

    However, on a case-by-case basis we can take late applicants for the High School in France program. You will, however, be charged a non-negotiable $450 late application fee for any applications received after March 15 for fall dates, and September 15 for spring departures.

    You must also be flexible when it comes to host family placement, which could come very last minute if you apply late. We also ask late applicants to be aware there is a lot of paperwork to submit and you will need to be on top of submission if you submit a late application.

    Can I choose where I will be placed with my host family?

    No. You must be flexible about where you are placed within Japan. We make it a priority to place students with host families that closely match your interests and personality. For this reason, we work first to find a suitable family rather than a destination preference. We can never guarantee placements in any specific city or region, and we match based on compatibility with the host family.

    I know a family in my program country that would like to host me. Is this possible?

    This is possible as long as we have a support network in the family’s host community and there is an available nearby host school.

    What if I don’t like my host family? Can I request a new one?

    No. We do not change host families based on preferences or location. However, if issues arise once you are on the program, we will handle them on a case-by-case basis and may make changes if necessary.

    Will I be placed in a city like Paris?

    It is very unlikely you will be placed in a major city. A majority of our families live in small to medium-sized towns outside of major cities, and it is important you be open-minded.

    Will I have a host sibling my age?

    There is no guarantee that you will have a host sibling your age. Your host family may have young children, teenage children, or grown children who no longer live at home. Regardless of the age of your host siblings, they’ll be excited to welcome into the family!

    Depending on your host family,  you may be expected to share a room with a host sibling of the same gender.

    Are flights included?

    Round trip airfare from New York (JFK) to Paris is included in the cost of the program. If JFK is not convenient for you and you wish to book flights on your own we will deduct the flight from your total fee.

    Will someone pick me up at the airport?

    Yes! Our in-country partner staff will be eagerly waiting for you when you arrive! They’ll then take you to the on-site arrival orientation site.

    After orientation, most students will take a train and their host family will pick them up from the station in their new host town.

    Will anyone at my school speak English?

    It’s possible that teachers and students at your school will speak English. However, remember that you’re there to learn French!

    All classes will be taught in French as this is a full immersion program.

    Will I get to travel?

    The program offers many optional weekend trips to places like Disneyland, Lille, and more. If you opt into one of these trips you will travel with other exchange students and chaperones for the weekend.

    You are not permitted to travel on your own during the program. There will be opportunities to travel through the program and/or through your school, but you are must be accompanied by an approved chaperone to travel.

    Do I need vaccines?

    We follow the CDC’s guidelines for travelers to France: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/destinations/traveler/none/france

    You are required to submit a record of immunizations during the application process.

    What is the insurance?

    Comprehensive medical and accident insurance will be included in the cost of your program. This will cover you for most medical expenses you might incur, like prescriptions, ER visits, doctor visits, dental accidents, and hospitalizations.

    What happens if I get sick or have an emergency?

    If you get sick, your host family or local coordinator will help you go to the doctor.

    If you have an emergency on program, we have a 24/7 emergency number you can call. Our in-country partner staff and your host family will be there to assist you. Greenheart will be in touch with your parents regarding your emergency.

    What visa do I get and how do I apply?

    All students will be required to obtain a student visa to France, regardless of their program length. It is the students’ responsibility to apply for this visa, but Greenheart will provide you guidance and the proper documents you’ll need to apply with your local consulate or with the embassy.

    Do you offer any scholarships, financial aid, or special discounts?

    Yes. Every year we offer various scholarships for select high school program destinations. There are two Early Bird Deadline discounts offered each year as well. If you have hosted a student for Greenheart Exchange, you are also eligible for a Greenheart Host Family discount.

    Do I need to be fluent in French?

    No. There are language requirements for this program – you must have at least 2 years of French language instruction. However, you are not expected to be fluent in French.

    One of the main goals of studying abroad is to become fluent in another language while living overseas. The host family and school will not expect you to be fluent when you first arrive and will help you improve your language skills. As long as you try your best, you’ll pick up the language sooner than you might think!

    Can I come home to visit or can my parents visit while I'm abroad?

    No. Visits are not allowed during the high school program. If your family wishes to visit, they should plan to meet you after your program is completed. In this instance, Greenheart Travel’s National office and international partner office should be informed of your family’s plans.

    Can friends study abroad together?

    Our programs are based on a full, cultural immersion experience so friends are not allowed to study abroad together in the same host town. You’re welcome to both go to France at the same time but you would not be placed together. Don’t worry though; making friends in your new host town will happen quickly!

    My school requires service learning in order to graduate. How will I do that abroad?

    Greenheart Travel is proud to offer the Greenheart Club for all of our students. The Greenheart Club challenges our participants to pursue a deeper level of immersion through volunteerism. As a member of the Greenheart Club, you will receive guidance in strategizing creative ways to give back to your community, have access to tools for tracking your impact and receive incentives for your efforts as a global leader. This is a great chance for you to get to know the local community outside of the classroom while you study abroad.

    Can I take the SATs while abroad?

    You will not be able to take the SATs while abroad.  We highly recommend taking the SATs prior to or after the program.

    I have already graduated, can I still go?

    Yes. On a case by case basis, we can accept already graduated students for High School programs in Argentina, Austria, Belgium, France, Italy, Netherlands, Norway, New Zealand, and England.

    Can I speak to current high school students or alumni?

    Yes! Check out our blog or you can join our exclusive teen programs Facebook group to talk to current and past students.

    We also have a list of mentors (teens and parents) that are past participants open to chatting about their experience with potential new participants. Please inquire here if you want to be put in touch with a mentor.

  • Why Greenheart Travel?

    Greenheart Travel has been working with high schoolers for many years, and there are advantages of applying for this program through us:

    • 33 years of experience with cultural exchange programs
    • Friendly, responsive, and professional support from your program manager, Allison.
    • Connect with alumni and others on the program via our Greenheart Travel only Facebook forums, before you even leave!
    • We try and make our program fees as inclusive as we can. We include things like medical insurance and flights so you don’t run into any hidden fees down the line.
    • Greenheart Atlas Program. The Greenheart Travel Atlas is a cultural training interactive guidebook alongside five videos where you will find three main topics covered: Personal/Professional Development, Cultural Understanding, & Environmental Awareness.
    • Our alumni recommend us! GoOverseas.com Reviews // GoAbroad.com Reviews
    • Hands-on support and personal attention every step of the way
    • 24/7 emergency phone number to reach a staff member at any time
    • Pre-departure “Culture Shock and Adjustment” Webinar before you leave
    • Discounts for future Greenheart Travel programs
    • We are a non-profit, mission-based organization
    • Continued support throughout your time abroad

    We also have some unique offerings to our Greenheart Travel students and alumni!

    Greenheart Global Impact Grants (GIGs)

    Greenheart GIG Grants are funds awarded to Greenheart Travel participants to use for community development projects in their host or home country. A GIG is the opportunity to create, improve, or maintain an impactful, community-focused project abroad or at home. Grant funds could be applied to supporting women’s cooperatives, schools, community centers, or health clinics, for example. Grant winners will be featured on our website, social media, and blog. You can see our past winners on our blog here.

    Greenheart Alumni Program

    We created the Greenheart Travel Alumni Program to provide resources and a community to support alumni in their advancement as global leaders, and a way to celebrate and reward our participants for being ambitious, inspiring catalysts of cultural exchange!

    Junior Greenheart Global Leaders Conference

    Each May Greenheart offers full-ride scholarships to around 10 teen alumni to attend our annual conference in Chicago. You can see more about what Jr. GGLC is and what you could do at the conference here.

  • Application Process

    Committing to studying abroad can feel daunting, but we are here every step of the way to make the application process as simple as possible! Below are the various steps you’ll need to take to be accepted on a high school abroad program.

    1. Start Your Application Here: Greenheart Travel Application. Once the initial form is complete, you will be connected to a High School Abroad program manager who will speak with you and a parent to go over the details of the program.

    2. Sign the Terms & Conditions (Approximately 10 Minutes): After you complete Part 1 of your application, you and one parent will be asked to read through and sign our Terms and Conditions which outline the requirements and policies of the program.

    3. Submit your deposit (Approximately 5 minutes): Next, you will submit your $1,000 non-refundable deposit which reserves your spot on the program and is subtracted from your total program fee.

    4. Skype Interview (Approximately 30-45 Minutes): After submitting your deposit, you will schedule an interview with Allison.  During this interview, Allison will ask you questions about living with a host family, adjusting to new situations and homesickness, among other things. She will also explain the overview of the next few months and what you can expect. This is done via Skype, and at least one parent should also be in attendance. If you do not have Skype, please download it before the interview.

    5. Secondary Application Form (Approximately 30 Minutes): This part of the application process will help us get to know you and assess the best match for your host family abroad. You will need to provide detailed information about yourself, why you want to study abroad, and what you hope to gain from your experience. You can do this prior to the Skype interview should you wish.

    5. Second Parent to Sign the Terms & Conditions (Approximately 5 minutes): Your other parent will be asked to read through and sign our Terms and Conditions which outline the requirements and policies of the program.

    6. Submitting Your Documents: You will also be required to submit documents (outlined below). You can be collecting the documents during the application process, but all documents will be due 14 days after you submit your deposit.

    Once you’ve completed all the steps, Greenheart Travel will thoroughly review your application and will contact you within 2-3 weeks about your acceptance. Then, you’ll get more information about preparation, visas, and placement.

    Required Documents

    In addition to completing an application, you will also be required to submit documents. You can be collecting the documents during the application process, but all documents will be due 14 days after you submit your deposit.

    The following documents will be required for all destinations:

    • Two Letter of Recommendation – at least one in French (from a teacher, coach or guidance counselor) – does not need to be sealed, should be scanned and uploaded to the document portal
    • Transcripts from the last 3 years (unofficial transcripts accepted)
    • Student Dear Family Letter
    • Parent Questionnaire & Letter
    • Photo Album (5-7 photos of you on a Word document with captions in English and French)
    • Medical Form (including immunizations)
    • Copy of your passport
    • 60-90 second self-introduction video in French sent via YouTube link
    • Secondary rules & expectations document signed by both parents and students


    For payments, a $1,000 non-refundable deposit will be due with your submitted application. This is a deposit, not an application fee, and will be deducted from your overall program cost. If your application is submitted after the deadline, the deposit will be $2,000.

    Once you are accepted onto the program, a $5,000 commitment deposit will be due within 7 days of acceptance.  Remaining balance is due on June 1st for fall departures and November 1st for spring departures.

    You’ve Been Accepted, Now What?

    Start getting ready for your adventure! Your program manager will be in regular communication with you to make sure that you are on track in your preparations to go abroad.

    • Upon acceptance, you will receive a student handbook (parents – you get one, too!) and access to the Greenheart Travel Atlas, as well as the Greenheart Club.
    • You will receive your host family and school placement roughly 2-3 month after acceptance.
    • After receiving your host family and school placement, you will receive further instructions on applying for you student visa (if applicable for your program length)
    • We will also schedule an online pre-orientation with other Greenheart students a few weeks before your departure!
  • Schedule a Call

    Have questions or want to talk to one of the program coordinators? Set up a time to have a phone call below.

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